THE SHIT SHOW
So during the whole debacle of everyone and their mother calling each other out - I was just... blah so freaking annoyed and frustrated. Brian knew exactly what he was doing tho - it wasn't a show to make him center of attention or to prove Ryan wrong. Absolutley not. Technically it made him look good in other people eyes, while the rest of us still in the game looks like noobs. It was a freaking shit show and I was embarressed on numerous occasions during the arguement.
I wanted to show the whole lot that those words about me were not true. I wanted to shout it so loud and shove it in their faces, but I needed to keep my calm. Its too early to show my cards, and too much is at stake.
Instead of making a scene in the thread, I decided to take actions into my own hands - well technically my foot. I decided to express my feelings to Brian and do this to him...
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I don't think I over reacted at all. Do you? lol
Well after I felt like the dust had settled. I decided to have a one on one with Brian finally. (After his trip to the ER of course.)
Drew Turner 6:58 pm
*knock* *knock*
bmertz0425 6:58 pm
heyo
Was wondering if I'd see you.
How are you?
Drew Turner 6:59 pm
Freaking fantastic. lol. and technically you cant see me, im invisible.
bmertz0425 6:59 pm
I can see your icon, and that's all that matters lol
Drew Turner 7:01 pm
Sorry im not in the talkative mood
but i promised i would speak with you
i had like a million things i wanted to say
now, its like meh. my brain is scrambled
bmertz0425 7:01 pm
Yeah, my mom has a tendency to just be negative about something. You could clean her whole house for her and then she'd turn it around yelling at you for not telling her ahead of time.
Million things as in like going off on me? lol
Drew Turner 7:02 pm
thats exactly my mom
No.
I never got mad about this whole debocle or whatever you call it
bmertz0425 7:02 pm
OK.
Drew Turner 7:02 pm
just frusterated - annoyed - but never angry really
bmertz0425 7:03 pm
I was as well.
I think we both were in our own right.
Drew Turner 7:03 pm
yeah, i think i feel the same way you do, but like you said
we are frustrated in different ways
but same feeling
bmertz0425 7:03 pm
Like, I think feel I have legit to be annoyed that you guys were telling him everything I told you guys.
Drew Turner 7:04 pm
Can we please not go there just quite yet
i remember what i kinda wanted to say
bmertz0425 7:04 pm
mmk.
Drew Turner 7:04 pm
since i know how you feel (from the pages apan pages of posts)
bmertz0425 7:04 pm
lol
Drew Turner 7:04 pm
i just want to get some stuff out about what you said
and we can take it from their
bmertz0425 7:04 pm
Lets hear it.
Drew Turner 7:04 pm
im not looking for a fight or anything, thats the last thing i want., i just want to clear some things up
bmertz0425 7:05 pm
Oh, same here.
Drew Turner 7:05 pm
and if i do cuss, its not because im mad or got angry, i always cuss when im frustrated, never angry
so just keep that in mind lol
bmertz0425 7:05 pm
Out of everyone here, I feel I could have the most rational convo. between you.
Drew Turner 7:05 pm
First , I woud like to adress your comments, well your PMS aswell
bmertz0425 7:05 pm
And I know that sounds contrived, but it's 100% truth.
lol @ PMS
Just let me know when you're done. I won't interrupt.
Drew Turner 7:07 pm
I know Ryan will win if he makes it the finals. I get it. I probably knew that from Day 1 when I met him. Im just annoyed that you keep brining it up, (if it was to just EVERYONE else, thats be cool because who knows if they know that, but I do. Trust me. I know you want to get your point accross, but i swear you can write a book now titled "WHY PEEOPLE SHOULDNT TAKE RYAN TO THE FINALS"
it would probably be a best seller
i would read it, you have VERY valid points
So can we please get passed that right now, because I KNOW THAT, beleive i know.
bmertz0425 7:07 pm
bmertz0425 7:10 pm
Is there more?
Drew Turner 7:10 pm
Secondly. I dont get why you keep saying "Im voting for Ryan at the end, I owe you guys nothing." I 100 percent AGREE. Especially me, you owe me JACK SHIT. I dont know when you say that, you are just referring to everybody or just some pple in particular. But just saying agiain, I know i dont know you anything. If Ryan makes it to the end, and your on jury. By all means you can vote for him, you have every right, you can vote HOWEVER YOU want. If I am in the jury, I will vote however I damm well please. And i dont care what nobody says. Its my vote.
So those are two things that i just dont want to keep hearing. I get it, so around me, you dont have to repeat yourself
lol
owe you anything*
sorry typo
bmertz0425 7:11 pm
mhm I understood.
Drew Turner 7:11 pm
So are you following me so far?
bmertz0425 7:11 pm
Yes, I have responses, but I'll wait.
Drew Turner 7:11 pm
Ok. yay cant wait.
bmertz0425 7:12 pm
lol hold the bitchiness
Drew Turner 7:12 pm
I have a question first tho, i know you commented about skorin acting all entitled and smug? Did I ever act that way towards you when I speak to you?
bmertz0425 7:13 pm
In my confessionals, I even said you were the only one who I didn't get impression from that seemed crazy and had a good head on your shoulders.
Drew Turner 7:13 pm
Well thank you.
bmertz0425 7:13 pm
But after finding out from Brit that you were the one wanting to run back to Ryan, at that point, that's when I was like screw you all.
Drew Turner 7:14 pm
I still need to speak to her about that. Because that is not true. But thats between me and her. I will find out what that was about later.
Drew Turner 7:15 pm
So... im ready for you comments about my comments lol
bmertz0425 7:16 pm
OK, with the repetition, I completely understand.
I know it was annoying.
Drew Turner 7:16 pm
then we can continue on this lovely conversation lol... well unless when we take a break lol
bmertz0425 7:16 pm
But from my perspective, every round I had two of you guys come up to me for an alliance to take out Ryan, and each time you guys backed out.
Drew Turner 7:16 pm
You talking about Tony and Kelman?
bmertz0425 7:17 pm
Tony and Kelman the first two rounds.
Jay and Kelman the third.
You guys the fourth.
bmertz0425 7:18 pm
Jay wanted an alliance but after Ryan saw that he eliminated him in the challenge, he flipped out on Jay and scared him straight.
Drew Turner 7:18 pm
I knew about Tony and Kelman, but I didnt know about Jay
oh alright
yeah i was gone that night
bmertz0425 7:19 pm
So at this point, I felt I had to make it VERY clear he has to go
And the problem was, Britt didn't seem to grasp any of it.
bmertz0425 7:20 pm
It was either she never intended on keeping Sheri, or she was just that emotionally insecure to want keep her around because it made no sense to keep Ryan.
And she actually sent me a message RIGHT after TC to say Drew can vote Ryan if he wanted to.
That's what also annoyed the shit out of me.
Drew Turner 7:21 pm
I think she did, in some ways, but me and her diffently had a miss communication that round.
bmertz0425 7:21 pm
She also blamed you for voting Sheri.
SHe said for you to vote whoever you wanted, and you told me you wanted Ryan gone, so none of it made sense.
Drew Turner 7:21 pm
Well to be honest, I can take the 100 percent blame
But to be honest, there was five, maybe six reasons why i choose to get rid of Sheri over Ryan.
Can i explain first?
bmertz0425 7:22 pm
Go for it.
Drew Turner 7:23 pm
I think things over alot. To be honest, I got alittle greedy for myself. Because when I was doing the pros and cons for each of them. I basically threw out the Foreskin agenda, and I threw out the "Old Skorin" agenda. (whatever ever the hell that is) and I voted what best suited me.
I looked at the two potential FINAL FIVES : either you/me/britti/sheri/jared vs you/me/britti/ryan/jared
and from my reasons i choose the second
now i hope you understand i cant tell you most, because of the situation we are in
bmertz0425 7:25 pm
You think I'll repeat?
Drew Turner 7:25 pm
No. thats not it. if id think you would repeat i wouldnt even be telling you this
but like you said. i think me and you hold a mutual understanding about this game
and we can chat about alot
no matter where both of us are at in the game
bmertz0425 7:26 pm
Let me know when you're done.
Drew Turner 7:26 pm
So I assume when you thought about how i voted: it would either me choosing the foreskin alliance or "being ryans puppet"
it was actually neither
it was probably the first move where i didnt think about anybody but helping myself
bmertz0425 7:27 pm
But the thing is, you both talked to Ryan about this alliance. Neither of you had to. As a result, it just makes you look like his puppet.
Drew Turner 7:27 pm
but in a way, i felt it was the best in the long run, including helping you
thats true
bmertz0425 7:27 pm
Each one of you guys have.
Drew Turner 7:27 pm
but i would like to talk to britti first about that situation
because it looks like you were alitte misinformed
bmertz0425 7:27 pm
Every time he messaged me, I knew he knew I was going after him, so when he made his fake hints at make alliances, I just ignored him.
Drew Turner 7:27 pm
thats not the 100 percent truth
bmertz0425 7:28 pm
But it's because all of your tribe would just run back to him.
But kind of a mute point, as you said, we know enough about the Ryan show.
Drew Turner 7:28 pm
i know im not giving you all what you want, but i need to speak with pple first beause im got a feeling alot of this was misformed
and i dont want any "he said. she said stuff"
i read enough of it on the site
bmertz0425 7:28 pm
Drew Turner 7:28 pm
its not your fault
everybody and their dog joined it
at some points, even if i knew it was serious talk
i was laughing
and i didnt know why lol
bmertz0425 7:29 pm
mmk, now my reasoning for the whole public thing.
You guys screwed me.
Drew Turner 7:29 pm
Fair enough.
bmertz0425 7:29 pm
Both of you needlessly lied to me.
Drew Turner 7:30 pm
What lie did i specicifically tell you?
(just so we are in the same page)
im not denying anything
bmertz0425 7:30 pm
In the fact that we were playing as a tribe.
First of all, we agreed to vote out Ryan from the getgo.
bmertz0425 7:30 pm
as a tribe = as a team/alliance
Drew Turner 7:30 pm
oh ok
gotcha
bmertz0425 7:30 pm
Then you misled me to believe a lot of stuff.
None of it was true.
Drew Turner 7:31 pm
now in regards of screwing you over, i saw it as just screwing sheri over, whom which i really didnt give my word to, but i see your point.
like what?
bmertz0425 7:31 pm
The thing was, I even knew you guys would vote just how you were acting.
Drew Turner 7:31 pm
Well the night before the vote was due when I was speaking to you
bmertz0425 7:32 pm
As I posted in my vote against Ryan.
Drew Turner 7:32 pm
that was 100 percent true, i told you i would PM you before i voted, but i got called into work early and figured i would speak to you when i was done
then all shit hit the fan so to speak
and i was like fuckkkkkk
Drew Turner 7:33 pm
In terms of betraying. I knew i was betraying the sheri/brian deal or whatever it was called, alliance, but i didnt think it was betraying yours and mine agreement. i thought that was seperate in some ways.
but yeah i 100 millions percent get why you are frustrated
i just didnt want you to think i was like "FUCK BRIAN, I WANNA BE RYANS BITCH"
im no ones bitch, i made that decision on my own
bmertz0425 7:34 pm
If Britt didn't tell me you told him stuff too, I would've been concerned, but fine.
Drew Turner 7:34 pm
WHICH back again, i need to speak to her about that
i dont want to call her out and say "SHE LIED"
bmertz0425 7:35 pm
But Britt also used divied out in 10s just like Ryan, which also brough up red flags, as well as her not responding to anything, and also not agreeing to us.
Drew Turner 7:35 pm
Yeah after the challenge was over, I got a PM from her about not wanting to go along with the plan. she just wanted to do her own thing i suppose? but i dont think they worked together, but yeah from looking at the graph, it did look suspecious
but i didnt know about it clearly
because i gave all 500 to myself
bmertz0425 7:36 pm
I know.
So essentially I felt like my time was being wasted for no reason.
Drew Turner 7:36 pm
i thought it was a good plan
if she would have done it, i might have won
bmertz0425 7:36 pm
As far as the "alliance" goes.
Drew Turner 7:36 pm
yes in terms of the foursome alliance
but not in terms of yourself individually
in my opinion
bmertz0425 7:37 pm
I know, I remember you asking.
But also thought it was dumb. I didn't want Sheri around.
But anyway, yeah.
With the whole public posting thing, I felt like I had nothing else to lose.
Drew Turner 7:37 pm
yeah... havnt you spoken to britti one on one yet?
bmertz0425 7:37 pm
I didn't want to just sit there and act like I did nothing.
bmertz0425 7:37 pm
No. She messaged me and says she's pissed at me.
Drew Turner 7:38 pm
Yeah she message me the same. I was like fuckkk. This is all great.
bmertz0425 7:38 pm
So I was essentially calling you guys all out.
Drew Turner 7:38 pm
Yeah, well basically e
bmertz0425 7:39 pm
And showing you guys everything you have done, means nothing.
Drew Turner 7:39 pm
even tho it was all about ryan
bmertz0425 7:39 pm
Yes.
That was the point.
Drew Turner 7:39 pm
it basically was a negative attack against us or diss.
bmertz0425 7:39 pm
Yes.
Drew Turner 7:39 pm
because it was like "Your mindless, you dont think for youself"
bmertz0425 7:39 pm
But also being nice to you guys obviously wasn't helping.
Drew Turner 7:39 pm
like it made ryan look good in some ways
bmertz0425 7:39 pm
Yep.
That was my point.
Drew Turner 7:39 pm
Exaclty
Drew Turner 7:39 pm
i knew what you were doing
thats why i didnt want to add fire to pot
i just wanted to talk to you one on one
but during this, i didnt want to be apart of any of it, i was so frustrated
so i wanted to wait
which im glad i did
bmertz0425 7:40 pm
And everything I say is fair, especially with Britt. SHe thinks she can win this game by saying she did stuff behind the scenes. There was nothing to happen behind the scenes because this game went exactly to script lol
Drew Turner 7:41 pm
I 100 percent agree with you
bmertz0425 7:41 pm
Same with you.
So far, it just looks like you did NOTHING.
Jay is only known for being dumb.
Drew Turner 7:41 pm
Yep in terms of thinking for ourselves and not going along with the script
yep it does look that way
Drew Turner 7:41 pm
compeltely agree
but i hope I can get you to see before (whether its finals or i get booted) that i made that vote based of my intentions, not anybody else, not any groups
bmertz0425 7:43 pm
But if he makes it to the end, he wins.
Because you had your chance.
Everyone in this tribe had it.
Drew Turner 7:43 pm
There still game left to be had
but yes, everyone has had the opportunity
very true
bmertz0425 7:43 pm
There's two more TCs.
Drew Turner 7:43 pm
Yep. we are down to the wire
bmertz0425 7:44 pm
And if you guys wait til F4, that's even more dumb. Especially keeping Jay who only listens to him around.
Which just forces a tie.
Drew Turner 7:45 pm
yep.
so here we sit in the final 5
bmertz0425 7:45 pm
lol Yep.
Drew Turner 7:45 pm
the dusk as kinda settled
bmertz0425 7:46 pm
I think Britt is still peeved.
She seems to take everything very personally.
Drew Turner 7:46 pm
Oh i know for a FACT she is. I never seen her mad all game
Drew Turner 7:46 pm
thats why i am alittle hesitant to speak to her about her telling you that i was the first one to go to Ryan with the info
bmertz0425 7:46 pm
But I don't get how she thinks she's this innocent victim.
Drew Turner 7:47 pm
IDK, but you guys need to have a conversation.
bmertz0425 7:47 pm
I don't think she will talk to me lol
Drew Turner 7:47 pm
I think you both owe eachother that talk, in my opinion
if you want, i can talk to her
bmertz0425 7:47 pm
Oh, I agree.
I know I said hurtful things.
I wanted a reaction. Not just to piss them off, but also slap you guys in the face to see how you all look useless.
Drew Turner 7:48 pm
yeah i know you wanted to get your point
bmertz0425 7:48 pm
I made it very clear I'm not here to win this game. I could care less about any of their opinions.
Drew Turner 7:48 pm
but i was hurt too - just like when you said "was all our talks for nothing, you just betrayed me" i was thinking "me and him had in depth convos - does he really think im this mindless being?"
bmertz0425 7:48 pm
I stand by everything I did. Every agreement I made, I was loyal to. I was 100% with you guys.
But after seeing and hearing what I did, I had nothing else to think.
Drew Turner 7:49 pm
I wish you would havnt spoken to me first
but yeah
bmertz0425 7:49 pm
It was like every other conversation I had with these people with them all just running back to him and another vote goes to waste.
Drew Turner 7:49 pm
i dont blame you
So thats what utlimately set you off? not sheri getting voted out, it was mainly about that?
bmertz0425 7:50 pm
Yes, because of all people, I felt like you actually had common sense.
And seeing that you guys were all just feeding him info., I was like this is just pointless.
Drew Turner 7:51 pm
I bet you thought "well if its true, and they are feeding him info, i might as well just tell him face to face"
bmertz0425 7:51 pm
I had nothing to lose.
Drew Turner 7:51 pm
but i dont want to get into this topic
because like i said
bmertz0425 7:51 pm
Oh, it was kind of when Ryan came gloating to me too.
Drew Turner 7:51 pm
i need to speak to britti
bmertz0425 7:51 pm
He was telling me everything I told you guys.
And then tried to accuse me of being arrogant lol
Drew Turner 7:52 pm
See thats not cool, i dont care what potition you are in, in ANYTHING in life. I hate gloaters, and cocky pple.
bmertz0425 7:52 pm
And then said he never said he wanted Brit out.
So I C&Ped the convo.
he flipped and said it meant nothing.
The thing is, yes, I know Ryan is a good player. But I also can see through his BS. Once we merged, I knew he was feeding me BS from day one. But I also knew I needed to be nice since he was controlling things and I wanted to look like a minion because that's what he likes.
Drew Turner 7:53 pm
Yeah i wished you would have posted it in the tribal thread, because i found it ridiculous that past players and alumni were joining in
Drew Turner 7:53 pm
it felt like it was the final tribal council
with everyones mom chipping in
it got ridiculous
and thats everyones falt
im not blaming you lol
bmertz0425 7:54 pm
I felt it was the right place.
Because it meant everyone had to defend themselves.
Drew Turner 7:54 pm
I bet you did
but call me a nerd
bmertz0425 7:54 pm
None of them didn't want to look stupid infront of the alumni.
Drew Turner 7:54 pm
i like old school and by the rules, and in real survivor pple out of the game dont get outside influence
it just stays between the pple who are still left
bmertz0425 7:54 pm
Oh, I completely agree.
Drew Turner 7:54 pm
but thats just me
bmertz0425 7:54 pm
But after seeing that first IC, I threw that out the door.
With your goofy ass GIF flag lol
Drew Turner 7:55 pm
LOL you still bitter about that?
that seemed like ages ago
bmertz0425 7:55 pm
I do think we should've won, but not bitter.
Drew Turner 7:55 pm
sorry i just love that word
bmertz0425 7:55 pm
It really annoys me when people say someone is bitter because they lost.
Drew Turner 7:55 pm
i use it alot
bmertz0425 7:55 pm
It's such a cop out.
Drew Turner 7:56 pm
haha i know, i just like using that word
because your right, it does set pple off
bmertz0425 7:56 pm
Ryan used it a lot for his arguments.
Drew Turner 7:56 pm
i bet
bmertz0425 7:56 pm
But it's not a reasoning and all it does is just saying you're opinion is meaningless.
Drew Turner 7:56 pm
hey we need to pause this in like 2 minutes
and continue later
bmertz0425 7:56 pm
Like it's like saying I can't defend myself so I'll just throw that out becaus we won.
mmk.
Drew Turner 7:57 pm
Survivor is on soon, and i know its sad, but this is the only good thing i have to look forward to in the past 3 days
like thats how much of a shit week this has been
that this show we keep me calm
sad i know
bmertz0425 7:57 pm
lol there there poodle.
Drew Turner 7:57 pm
shitty halloween, shitty work, surpsise by parents, then this crap from the game
ugh
bmertz0425 7:57 pm
See ya.
Drew Turner 7:57 pm
i still have 2 minutes
bmertz0425 7:57 pm
mmk
Well, yeah, so I felt with how this game was, it was the right place.
Drew Turner 7:58 pm
so what do you want to discuss/accomplis in part 2?
bmertz0425 7:58 pm
The future.
Drew Turner 7:58 pm
The future is good
bmertz0425 7:58 pm
And any other things we didn't finish from Part 1
Drew Turner 7:58 pm
Gocha.
bmertz0425 7:59 pm
Which I think we covered most.
Drew Turner 7:59 pm
Well ill be back in an hour or so. i may make dinner.
Yeah i feel this has been productive.
bmertz0425 7:59 pm
I'm not a crazy person.
Drew Turner 7:59 pm
I hope you dont feel any ill well against me anymore
bmertz0425 7:59 pm
I don't flip out.
Drew Turner 7:59 pm
I am a very calm person aswell
bmertz0425 7:59 pm
Throughout this whole thing, I wasn't mad.
But I'm very blunt.
And I will call out BS.
Drew Turner 7:59 pm
I think thats why we get on so well - we dont play with our emotions and stuff.
As will I.
bmertz0425 8:00 pm
And I felt it needed to be said, especially since I felt I was going.
I could've given a shit about all-stars.
Drew Turner 8:00 pm
I still thinks its anyones game, but like you said before, If Ryan gets to the final, he will win.
bmertz0425 8:00 pm
i don't do stuff to be the center of attention.
Drew Turner 8:00 pm
I know that
You clearly know that
Britti knows
Ryan knows
the jury knows
even JAY knows
bmertz0425 8:00 pm
Knows what?
Drew Turner 8:00 pm
but he doesnt care
That ryan will win if he gets to the finals
bmertz0425 8:01 pm
Oh yeah, but Jay will listen regardless.
Drew Turner 8:01 pm
but yeah i knew you didnt start that because of shit and giggles
i knew you did that for a reason
dont worry about kelman
he is still clueless out of the game, as in the game
bmertz0425 8:01 pm
I don't worry about any of them... clearly lol
Drew Turner 8:01 pm
LOL
ok ill be back later!
bmertz0425 8:01 pm
See ya
